Craps Betting System
Once a point is made of 6 or 8 the don't pass has equity of 9.09% of the bet amount, which you would be throwing away by taking the bet down. The equity of a don't pass bet on a point of 5 or 9 is 20%, and on a 4 or 10 is 33.33%. I’d like your thoughts on this craps strategy. Betting systems: Craps Philosophy: Any craps. Any seven. Big 6 Big 8 Field. Field betting. Field Follow. Field Martingale. Field Parlay. Field strategy. Hardways Parlay. Hard 6 or 8. Video Craps. Vinny's Any Seven. 1-3-2-6 System. Bet Progressions (5 simple methods) D'Alenbert system. Fibonacci Progression; Field bank.
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Thanks still looking for the advantage.
As a money management tool, I usually stop betting don't and don't come after a shooter takes down 3 of my bets with odds. (I don't count come out bets). I never switch, just wait for next shooter.
This does not give any advantage. Just gives me a little longer at the table.
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Try ... 'Dave's System' Good read. Good system. He doesn't throw. But he has been 86'd by one casino for winning too much!
DeMan,
Many thanx for sharing. If any 'system' can go toe-to-toe against the casino, Dave's System shaves the casino edge to about as close to zero as one can get.
When I play craps, I often favor playing the Don't bets. But, I also like the shared camaraderie by betting with everyone when the table is hot. So, rather than do either, I usually do neither. But, I wonder why everyone doesn't shoot from the Don't side and crush the casino.
As for yourself, do you favor playing one side or the other? Or, are you a true craps agnostic?
I recently watched the Wizard of Odds videos detailing how he plays the Don't Pass/Don't Come bets. I have been trying the system at a free online site and wonder if there isn't a point at which you stop the process of betting Don't Come, seems that when there is a hot shooter you are constantly repeating the Don't Come bets and eventually lose. Is there a limit to how many times a shooter hits a number that I should then stop Don't Come bets?
Thanks still looking for the advantage.
Good luck on this forum with talking about a 'hot table' ! lol
As for yourself, do you favor playing one side or the other? Or, are you a true craps agnostic?
I need to shoot from the don't, it's the way to go.
5 years ago I was at an IP table and someone was playing 'Dave's System' I, of course, asked him if he was dave. He said no, but 'Bobby Bones' has become my best craps buddy. He needs to shoot from the don't also. We will get there.
I need to shoot from the don't, it's the way to go.
I often think so. I like it when the stick says 'From the Don't, hoping they won't' and some people walk away from the table or quite obviously groan.I had been on the Don't for about twenty minutes when the dice came to me and one young girl was utterly shocked that I stayed on the Don't when I was the shooter.
Now I will admit.... between Do and Don't it ain't much ... you gotta take it out to four decimal places, so it sure isn't much of an advantage. And since I generally tip well, hence the 'stiff' part of my moniker, that four-decimal-place 'edge' sure disappears. I also tend to reward the Tray Lizard to compensate for the calouses on her feet, so any 'edge' disappears there too.
But I sure do like the Don'ts. I feel like I'm betting with the Casino... and that is surely as close I will ever get to owning a casino.
Don't Pass then two Don't Come but also Place the Six and Eight. All Line Bets get Odds asap. Odds are always 'working'. Dealers are in the game on my first bet and dealers get shoes too.
I recently watched the Wizard of Odds videos detailing how he plays the Don't Pass/Don't Come bets. I have been trying the system at a free online site and wonder if there isn't a point at which you stop the process of betting Don't Come, seems that when there is a hot shooter you are constantly repeating the Don't Come bets and eventually lose. Is there a limit to how many times a shooter hits a number that I should then stop Don't Come bets?
Thanks still looking for the advantage.
I see quite a few scenario's from people betting both sides.
First off if you went to the casino and the craps table min was $15 (Too rich for some people)
You can bet $15 on the DP and $15 on the Pass then bet 5.00 for odds in behind either DP or Pass ($1.00 on the 12 crap for insurance)
I think why people bet both sides is simply because they want to be cheap by betting much less than the min bet.
Second, DC/COME is good because you can bet $15 on the DC and $15 on the COME then bet 5.00 for odds on the come bet ($1.00 on the 12 crap for insurance)
If you think about it if you place the 6 or 8 for 6.00 pays 7 to 6 odds winning $1.00 extra but you have an extra $1.00 at risk when placing.
By betting both DC and PASS, you only put $5.00 on the COME odds and still make $1.00 but that $1.00 you put on the 12 crap that pays 30 to 1 so you lose the COME bet, DC gets Bar, 12 craps pays $30.00 minus $15 lost on the COME bet, still makes 15 profit. That's just the 6,8. The 4,10 pay even more so you can make even on your COME odds and invest the profit in the center bets and hope for a win, After all it's free betting.
There are many advantages. You just need to look for them.
I see quite a few scenario's from people betting both sides.
First off if you went to the casino and the craps table min was $15 (Too rich for some people)
You can bet $15 on the DP and $15 on the Pass then bet 5.00 for odds in behind either DP or Pass ($1.00 on the 12 crap for insurance)
I think why people bet both sides is simply because they want to be cheap by betting much less than the min bet.
But what you are writing is often very misguided, full of gambler's fallacies, and just plain wrong like that last sentence. I don't think you are trying to bait people [I wondered at first] so it seems you think you are making sense. You are not! You are coming across as a Craps enthusiast who can't find anything not to like as long as it involves Craps.
This site is about smarter gambling. There is little sign that you are 'with the program'. I guess you don't have to be, but if you do all that reading etc. seems to me you might care ... it's time to not just read but to try for some comprehension too!
I think why people bet both sides is simply because they want to be cheap by betting much less than the min bet
Betting both sides increases the amount you are betting. The two bets *do not* cancel each other out! Each bet you make has an undefeatable EV attached to it and no negative expectation bet can cancel out another! I'm sorry but this shows you are not learning anything though presumably reading everything! You should just know these things by now [I can't use another exclamation pt. but that needs one too]Second, DC/COME is good because you can bet $15 on the DC and $15 on the COME then bet 5.00 for odds on the come bet ($1.00 on the 12 crap for insurance)
Read my paragraph above again and ask yourself why you are advocating this. Have you not come across the advice not to hedge?If you think about it if you place the 6 or 8 for 6.00 pays 7 to 6 odds winning $1.00 extra but you have an extra $1.00 at risk when placing. By betting both DC and PASS, you only put $5.00 on the COME odds and still make $1.00 but that $1.00 you put on the 12 crap that pays 30 to 1 so you lose the COME bet, DC gets Bar, 12 craps pays $30.00 minus $15 lost on the COME bet, still makes 15 profit.
Can you really defend using words like 'profit' ?That's just the 6,8. The 4,10 pay even more so you can make even on your COME odds and invest the profit in the center bets and hope for a win, After all it's free betting.
Profit. Free betting. My man, you have a long ways to go. Show some evidence you are getting there.There are many advantages. You just need to look for them.
Very fine words. The casinos should hire you and indeed pay you by the word to go around and mislead people at these sites. You won't get suspended here for that but I for one will just have to block you and these threads even though I don't like to block Craps threads. Please get real.It’s no hidden secret that the house always wins in casino games. This is the only way the casino can make enough money to pay their costs including staff, operations and maintenance etc. But in Craps in particular, the house edge can be very high compared to other games. The % of winning at Craps can be improved if you know the best way to play craps.
Some craps bets for instance can have up to a 14% edge. This means if you play craps recklessly in a casino, without learning any craps strategy and how to win at craps, you’ll lose a lot of money in a short space of time.
By reading up our Craps strategy, before you play online craps or live craps, you’ll minimise your losses (and maximise your chance to winning at craps) by sticking to profitable bets with a low house edge. You can avoid the costly bets that only suckers make, and in the long term you’ll increase your expected value from the game. You can also check out the various Craps betting systems which have been published online and used a lot by craps players. So let’s read and learn how to win at craps.
Craps Strategy : Best Craps Bets
The best bets to place, whether you’re just starting out or a seasoned pro, are the Pass Line bet and Don’t Pass Line bets. These bets are similar to Blackjack and roulette in that you basically have a 50/50 chance of doubling up and the house only has a 1.41% advantage.
“Betting Against the Line” means you are betting against the run of play. These odds are actually slightly better than Pass Line bet as the house only has a 1.40% edge. You win by laying the person rolling and hoping that he hits a 7 before his Point. Be careful when placing this bet however, because it tends to mean you are betting against everyone else at the table i.e. when you win they lose.
The second range of optimal betting includes place 6, place 8, buy 4 and buy 10. Buying the 4 and 10 is cheaper than placing them. Just remember that placing the other numbers is cheaper than buying them.
Most players are unaware of this but there are a few bets you can make that have a 0% house advantage. These are the Taking the Odds and Laying the Odds. Unfortunately, you need to have previously placed the minimum bet on Pass Line of Don’t Pass Line to place these, which happens to give the House a marginal advantage overall. Most casinos also limit the amount you can wager on the odds bets. This is related to your Pass Line/Don’t Pass bets e.g. limit of 2-5x.
Take a look at our craps bets guide for in-depth guide about the best craps bets.
We also have to mention that we found some good strategy articles at www.casinosformoney.com for both craps and other casino games.
Worst Craps Bets
Generally speaking, the higher the real odds the larger the House’s mark-up. This means betting on an unlikely event like “Big 6/Big 8” gives the house a massive 9.1% advantage. These are horrible odds for any gambler. Even though the payouts are high I would avoid these hit-and-miss bets.
The worst thing you can do in Craps is make “Big Round”, Hard Way or Field bets. Punters who bet on individual numbers is the big money maker for casinos. The odds can be even worse for Hard numbers like Hard Eight where the real odds of 10:1 are replaced by Casino odds of 9:1. The worst proposition bets give the House a 16% advantage in some casinos. Snake Eyes (1 and 1) is one of the most popular proposition bets but it is also costly. It gives the house a 14% advantage.
Craps Tips
When playing craps at casinos, get comfortable with the pass, come, and free odds wagers. The only good wagers are the pass, don’t pass, come, don’t come, free odds, and placing the 6 and 8 wagers. In the beginning, stay with the pass line and a come wager or two (with odds). The house edge is good for pass (1.41%) and don’t pass (1.36%) wagers.
By laying odds, these numbers will be reduced, too. It’s best to ignore all systems when online gambling and playing craps. This game is full of energy and excitement. Just be sure to be familiar with the above wagers before you start playing this popular game. Have fun!
- It is best to make your betting selection(s) or establish a pattern of play and stick to it.
- For those of you who want to play longer and enjoy the action, it is best to stick to the ‘pass/don’t pass’ and ‘come/don’t come’ bets.
- For those of you who wish to ‘hit and run’ and winning is your priority, go for the high-odds bets.
- Raise your betting if you are winning, lower your betting if you are losing.
- You should never quit after a win.
- Last but not least, do not plan to win with every roll of the dice.
Craps Betting Strategy Simulator
If you are the shooter at a craps table, your must make sure that you throw the dice far enough to bounce off of the far or side wall. This is a requirement when shooting craps. By bouncing off of the wall casinos can be sure that the winning numbers are random.
Gamblers Fallacy
There is a common tendency for gamblers to make predictions. The thing that you should be doing is trying to plan out your bets based upon your previous bets. Let me give you a couple of examples:
Best 5 Craps Strategies
STRATEGY #1: Using Classic Regression
Goal: To earn profit on a single hit.
1) Wait until the shooter establishes a point before placing your bets.
2) Once the point is determined, place $6.00 (two units) on both the 6 and 8 (For a total wager of $12.00).
3) After a single hit, ask the Dealer to go down one unit on both the 6 & 8.
Results: You have earned $2.00 and can no longer be taken by the Seven. You also still have $12.00 working for you. After a second hit, bring down all your wagers and wait for the shooter to roll the point or a 7. When this is achieved, start the process over.
On two hits your total earning is $21.00. You can bring down your wagers after the first hit, earning $14.00. Or, you can keep betting on the 6 & 8. If you choose to continue riding your wagers, make sure both the 6 & 8 are covered.
Behind the Strategy: There are exactly ten different combined ways to create a 6 and 8. There are exactly six combined ways for creating a seven.
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STRATEGY #2: Putting the ” Three Point Molly” to Use
Goal: To have three numbers working for your advantage at all times.
1) Place a Pass Line wager.
2) Backup your Pass Line wager by placing single or double odds on it.
3) Place a Come Line wager.
4) Backup your Come Bet wager by placing single or double odds on it (Two Come bets maximum).
5) When a Come Bets wins, immediately place another.
6) Repeat this process until the shooter rolls the point or a seven (Seven-Out).
Behind the Strategy: Every Come Bet you place will protect your original Pass Line wager. This will allow you to take advantage of a hot and lucky shooter.
STRATEGY #3: Winning with “Anything But Seven”
Goal: To win with any rolled number besides a seven.
1) Wait until the shooter establishes a point before placing your bets.
2) Once the point is determined, place $6.00 (two units) on the 5, 6 and 8 (For a total wager of $36.00).
3) Place one unit on the Field ($3.00).
Craps Betting Strategy Don't Come
Result: If the shooter keeps the dice for at least three rolls, you can earn $15.00-$27.00. If a two or twelve are thrown, you will earn even more. It is advisable to remove all your wagers after three rolls. Since this is a high risk bet with $39.00 invested, it is a safe precaution to do so.
Advanced Craps Betting Systems
Behind the Strategy: The average shooter rolls the dice 4 to 6 times before throwing a 7.
STRATEGY #4: Playing a “6/8 Play”
Goal: To earn substantial profit on just two hits.
1) Wait until the shooter rolls one more time after making a point.
2) Make a Pass Line or Don’t Pass Line wager.
3) Place $18.00 on both the 6 & 8 for a net wager of $36.00.
4) After a 6 or 8 is rolled, tell the dealer you want $22.00 Inside.
5) On the very next hit, tell the dealer to take down the 5 and 9.
6) Let the shooter throw the dice three more times, and then bring down the 6 & 8.
Results: After the First Hit you will get back $21.00, and $14.00 from the takedown to 22 Inside. Your net exposure after the first hit is $1.00, with $22.00 in your favor. The second hit will make $7.00 plus the return of $10.00, resulting from the 5 and 9 takedown. After two hits you will have earned $16.00 profit, and will still have $12.00 working in your favor. At this time, you can choose to either have the 6 and 8 continue working for you, or, take your $12.00 off the table.
Behind the Strategy: If the shooter has not rolled the point or a 6 or 8 by the fourth roll, you should take down all wagers and wait for another shooter. You can lay down $24.00 instead of $36.00 to begin with if you do not want to risk as much. With a hot and lucky shooter you may want to keep the 5 and 9 up and playing for more than just one throw.
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Craps Betting Strategy Iron Cross
STRATEGY #5: Using Regressive and Pressing Methods
Goal: Letting your earnings ride after recovering your beginning investment.
Craps Betting Strategy
1) After the player makes their point, place $18.00 on both the 6 and 8 for a total investment of $36.00.
2) After the first hit, tell the dealer you want $22.00 inside.
3) Remove the 5 and 9 after the second hit has occurred.
4) Immediately place the 5 and 9 back up after the third hit has occurred.
5) After the fourth hit, press the 6 and 8 up to $12.00 each for a total of $24.00.
6) After the fifth hit; return to Step #1 and repeat the process.
Results: After the first hit, you will get back $21.00 and $14.00 from the takedown to 22 inside. Your exposure risk is $1.00. After the second hit has occurred, you will get back $7.00 plus an additional $10.00 by removing the 5 & 9. Your total profit after two hits is exactly $16.00, with $12.00 working for you.
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